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    "Catholics approval of President Barack Obama has remained relatively unchanged despite facing harsh opposition from the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops over new contraception rules. A survey released Tuesday by Gallup found that 46 percent of Catholics approved of Obama last week. A week prior to that his approval was at 49 percent, a change within the margin of error. […] Facing a backlash from Catholic bishops and their Republican supporters, the White House said last week that it would change the proposed rules by exempting religious hospitals and universities, and instead mandating that insurance companies provide those services."
    — 2 years ago with 1 note
    #politics  #news  #religion  #president obama  #catholics  #catholic church  #contraception  #health insurance 
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Catholicism then: “I as a Catholic have absolutely no right in my thinking to foist through legislation or through other means, my doctrine of my church upon others. It is important to note that Catholics do not need the support of the civil law to be faithful to their religious convictions,” -Boston’s late Cardinal Richard Cushing, 1965, the man who married John F Kennedy. – The Dish

    Catholicism then: “I as a Catholic have absolutely no right in my thinking to foist through legislation or through other means, my doctrine of my church upon others. It is important to note that Catholics do not need the support of the civil law to be faithful to their religious convictions,” -Boston’s late Cardinal Richard Cushing, 1965, the man who married John F Kennedy. – The Dish

    — 2 years ago with 19 notes
    #politics  #religion  #catholics  #catholicism  #cardinal richard cushing  #1965  #john f kennedy  #civil law  #religious convictions 
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Religious “freedom” and contraception: 10 Catholic teachings that Rick Santorum doesn’t care about 
Juan Cole points out that there are at least ten Catholic teachings / opinions which Cardinal Rick Santorum chooses to ignore — while he obsesses about contraception, religious “freedom,” and women’s rights:

The right wing Republican politicians who have been denouncing the requirement that female employees have access to birth control as part of their health benefits as an attack on religious freedom completely ignore the church teachings they don’t agree with. Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich are both Catholics, and wear their faith on their sleeves, but they are hypocritical in picking and choosing when they wish to listen to the bishops.

(Brief summary)

1.  Iraq War2. Health care should be provided to all Americans3.  Opposition to the death penalty / executions4. Increasing federal minimum wage5. Welfare for needy families6.  Worker’s rights: wages, organization, joining unions7.  Israel’s withdrawal from Palestinian territories8.  Arizona’s law on treatment of immigrants9. Treatment of illegal immigrants10. Preventative war

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    Religious “freedom” and contraception: 10 Catholic teachings that Rick Santorum doesn’t care about

    Juan Cole points out that there are at least ten Catholic teachings / opinions which Cardinal Rick Santorum chooses to ignore — while he obsesses about contraception, religious “freedom,” and women’s rights:

    The right wing Republican politicians who have been denouncing the requirement that female employees have access to birth control as part of their health benefits as an attack on religious freedom completely ignore the church teachings they don’t agree with. Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich are both Catholics, and wear their faith on their sleeves, but they are hypocritical in picking and choosing when they wish to listen to the bishops.

    (Brief summary)

    1.  Iraq War
    2. Health care should be provided to all Americans
    3.  Opposition to the death penalty / executions
    4. Increasing federal minimum wage
    5. Welfare for needy families
    6.  Worker’s rights: wages, organization, joining unions
    7.  Israel’s withdrawal from Palestinian territories
    8.  Arizona’s law on treatment of immigrants
    9. Treatment of illegal immigrants
    10. Preventative war

    Read it all…

    — 2 years ago with 4 notes
    #news  #politics  #religion  #10 catholic teachings santorum ignores  #birth control  #catholic opinions  #catholic teachings  #Catholics  #contraception  #GOP  #juan cole  #religious freedom  #Republicans  #rick santorum  #women's rights 
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Catholicism now: “[O]nce the colleges fell and those who were being educated in our institutions, the next was the church. Now you’d say, ‘wait, the Catholic Church’? No. We all know that this country was founded on a Judeo-Christian ethic but the Judeo-Christian ethic was a Protestant Judeo-Christian ethic, sure the Catholics had some influence, but this was a Protestant country and the Protestant ethic, mainstream, mainline Protestantism, and of course we look at the shape of mainline Protestantism in this country and it is in shambles, it is gone from the world of Christianity as I see it.” - Rick Santorum’s assessment of mainline Protestantism, at Ave Maria University in 2008 [Note: you can listen to audio here]

    Catholicism now: “[O]nce the colleges fell and those who were being educated in our institutions, the next was the church. Now you’d say, ‘wait, the Catholic Church’? No. We all know that this country was founded on a Judeo-Christian ethic but the Judeo-Christian ethic was a Protestant Judeo-Christian ethic, sure the Catholics had some influence, but this was a Protestant country and the Protestant ethic, mainstream, mainline Protestantism, and of course we look at the shape of mainline Protestantism in this country and it is in shambles, it is gone from the world of Christianity as I see it.” - Rick Santorum’s assessment of mainline Protestantism, at Ave Maria University in 2008 [Note: you can listen to audio here]

    — 2 years ago with 3 notes
    #news  #religion  #politics  #rick santorum  #catholics  #protestants  #mainline protestantism  #tell us how you really feel rick 
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As a matter of fact, Rick Santorum IS holier than thou (and thou and thou…) - White House candidate Rick Santorum on Saturday questioned President Barack Obama’s Christian values and attacked GOP rival Mitt Romney’s Olympics leadership as he courted tea party activists and evangelical voters in Ohio, “ground zero” in the 2012 nomination fight. Santorum, a former Pennsylvania senator known for his social conservative policies, said that Obama’s agenda is “not about you. It’s not about your quality of life. It’s not about your jobs. It’s about some phony ideal. Some phony theology. Not a theology based on the Bible. A different theology.” [Note: Santorum is ‘courting’ the bottom of the gene pool for political points (birthers, teabaggers, racists) and has the nerve to question a fellow Christian’s values and beliefs? Maybe Santorum simply doesn’t like that the President is a Protestant…]
Judge not, lest ye be judged by Santorum: 
~ Santorum stands by statement that Obama’s theology not based on the Bible - Speaking to reporters after addressing a luncheon of the Ohio Christian Alliance, Santorum said that the “new low” in the campaign is represented not by his remarks about Obama’s beliefs, but by the Obama administration’s handling of the recent controversy over whether the national health care law’s mandated coverage of contraception applies to religious-affiliated institutions.
~ Santorum says Obama looks down on disabled, encouraging more abortions - Rick Santorum accused President Obama of requiring free prenatal testing in the health care plan he signed in 2010 because it would detect if children were disabled, encourage more abortions and save money.

    As a matter of fact, Rick Santorum IS holier than thou (and thou and thou…) - White House candidate Rick Santorum on Saturday questioned President Barack Obama’s Christian values and attacked GOP rival Mitt Romney’s Olympics leadership as he courted tea party activists and evangelical voters in Ohio, “ground zero” in the 2012 nomination fight. Santorum, a former Pennsylvania senator known for his social conservative policies, said that Obama’s agenda is “not about you. It’s not about your quality of life. It’s not about your jobs. It’s about some phony ideal. Some phony theology. Not a theology based on the Bible. A different theology.” [Note: Santorum is ‘courting’ the bottom of the gene pool for political points (birthers, teabaggers, racists) and has the nerve to question a fellow Christian’s values and beliefs? Maybe Santorum simply doesn’t like that the President is a Protestant…]

    Judge not, lest ye be judged by Santorum: 

    ~ Santorum stands by statement that Obama’s theology not based on the Bible - Speaking to reporters after addressing a luncheon of the Ohio Christian Alliance, Santorum said that the “new low” in the campaign is represented not by his remarks about Obama’s beliefs, but by the Obama administration’s handling of the recent controversy over whether the national health care law’s mandated coverage of contraception applies to religious-affiliated institutions.

    ~ Santorum says Obama looks down on disabled, encouraging more abortions - Rick Santorum accused President Obama of requiring free prenatal testing in the health care plan he signed in 2010 because it would detect if children were disabled, encourage more abortions and save money.

    — 2 years ago with 1 note
    #news  #politics  #religion  #rick santorum  #holy man  #catholics  #protestants  #holier than thou  #jesus loves santorum more than you  #president obama  #phony theology  #bible  #santorum is the best christian of all  #judge not lest santorum judge you 

    Video: Rick Santorum — When I questioned the President’s faith, I wasn’t questioning the President’s faith

    This morning on Face the Nation, Santorum trys to walk back his earlier comments about President Obama’s faith — and then trips and falls over them again:

    Santorum, chuckling: “I accept that the President’s a Christian… I’ve repeatedly said I don’t question the President’s faith. I’ve repeatedly said the President’s a Christian, he says he’s a Christian, uh… but I am talking about his worldview, his, uh… the way he approaches problems in this country, and I think they’re different than the way that most people do in America.”

    Remember, there’s only one candidate who Jesus is sponsoring in this election:

    Judge not, lest ye be judged by Rick Santorum.

    — 2 years ago with 1 note
    #FAIL  #humor  #news  #politics  #religion  #Catholics  #GOP  #holier than thou  #jesus' co-pilot  #President Obama  #protestants  #questioning the president's faith  #Republicans  #rick santorum  #true christians 
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Rick Santorum in 2008: “You’re a liberal something, but you’re not a Christian.”
Santorum said that in a 2008 interview with the Oxford Centre for Religion and Public Life.
Ed Kilgore says,

As it happens, the Santorum appearance Waldman wrote about occurred around the same time in 2008 as the Pennsylvanian’s now famous speech at Ave Maria University when he regaled his audience with a narrative of the ongoing war for America between true Christians and Satan. He sadly concluded that mainline Protestantism, which was “gone from the world of Christianity,” had already been lost to His Infernal Majesty. Clearly, the apostasy of liberal Protestants was on his mind at that time, perhaps because of the rise to national power of Barack Obama.
As Waldman noted, this is not that unusual an attitude for self-consciously conservative Christians to have these days, but it’s unusual to hear it from a politician. Rick Santorum cannot have it both ways, though. If he feels so strongly that Christians who don’t share his particular “world view” aren’t really Christian at all, then he should be loud and proud about it, and stop pretending he’s just this mild-mannered man of faith being persecuted by people who despise the very name of Jesus Christ.

It’s easy enough for the far right to judge liberals and Obama, especially by those who call themselves “Christians” — they do it all the time.
But I’d really like to hear how all the rightwing, born-again, evangelical Protestants feel about Santorum’s conclusion that they and their religion are ‘gone from the world of Christianity‘.

We all know that this country was founded on a Judeo-Christian ethic but the Judeo-Christian ethic was a Protestant Judeo-Christian ethic, sure the Catholics had some influence, but this was a Protestant country and the Protestant ethic, mainstream, mainline Protestantism, and of course we look at the shape of mainline Protestantism in this country and it is in shambles, it is gone from the world of Christianity as I see it.

So, you see, you’re not a real Christian either. Sorry! Deal with it, I guess. Only Saint Santorum decides who’s in or out. I wonder if Jesus Himself would make Santorum’s cut?

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    Rick Santorum in 2008: “You’re a liberal something, but you’re not a Christian.”

    Santorum said that in a 2008 interview with the Oxford Centre for Religion and Public Life.

    Ed Kilgore says,

    As it happens, the Santorum appearance Waldman wrote about occurred around the same time in 2008 as the Pennsylvanian’s now famous speech at Ave Maria University when he regaled his audience with a narrative of the ongoing war for America between true Christians and Satan. He sadly concluded that mainline Protestantism, which was “gone from the world of Christianity,” had already been lost to His Infernal Majesty. Clearly, the apostasy of liberal Protestants was on his mind at that time, perhaps because of the rise to national power of Barack Obama.

    As Waldman noted, this is not that unusual an attitude for self-consciously conservative Christians to have these days, but it’s unusual to hear it from a politician. Rick Santorum cannot have it both ways, though. If he feels so strongly that Christians who don’t share his particular “world view” aren’t really Christian at all, then he should be loud and proud about it, and stop pretending he’s just this mild-mannered man of faith being persecuted by people who despise the very name of Jesus Christ.

    It’s easy enough for the far right to judge liberals and Obama, especially by those who call themselves “Christians” — they do it all the time.

    But I’d really like to hear how all the rightwing, born-again, evangelical Protestants feel about Santorum’s conclusion that they and their religion are ‘gone from the world of Christianity‘.

    We all know that this country was founded on a Judeo-Christian ethic but the Judeo-Christian ethic was a Protestant Judeo-Christian ethic, sure the Catholics had some influence, but this was a Protestant country and the Protestant ethic, mainstream, mainline Protestantism, and of course we look at the shape of mainline Protestantism in this country and it is in shambles, it is gone from the world of Christianity as I see it.

    So, you see, you’re not a real Christian either. Sorry! Deal with it, I guess. Only Saint Santorum decides who’s in or out. I wonder if Jesus Himself would make Santorum’s cut?

    — 2 years ago with 3 notes
    #news  #politics  #religion  #lol  #Catholics  #church lady  #GOP  #liberals  #liberals aren't christian  #LOL  #mullah santorum  #protestants  #protestants aren't christian  #Republicans  #rick santorum  #saint santorum  #Teaparty  #the only real christian  #theocracy 
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A Sunday prayer for 35 priests at the Archdiocese of Philadelphia: string them up… 
…or let those children who were abused and who are now adults have at them.

Cardinal Anthony J. Bevilacqua ordered aides to shred a 1994 memo that identified 35 Archdiocese of Philadelphia priests suspected of sexually abusing children, according to a new court filing.
The order, outlined in a handwritten note locked away for years at the archdiocese’s Center City offices, was disclosed Friday by lawyers for Msgr. William J. Lynn, the former church administrator facing trial next month.
They say the shredding directive proves what Lynn has long claimed: that a church conspiracy to conceal clergy sex abuse was orchestrated at levels far above him.
“It is beyond doubt that Msgr. Lynn was completely unaware of this act of obstruction,” attorneys Jeffrey Lindy and Thomas Bergstrom wrote.
Their motion asks Common Pleas Court Judge M. Teresa Sarmina to dismiss the conspiracy and endangerment charges against Lynn, or to bar prosecutors from introducing Bevilacqua’s videotaped testimony at trial.
The cardinal died Jan. 31.
Read it all…

And meanwhile the Catholic Church, with its current mouthpiece as Rick Santorum, want to tell all women in the country what they should and shouldn’t do with contraception and personal choices because of so called “religious freedom”? It’s truly laughable. We’ve seen what the Catholic Church’s male-leadership has done with religious freedom for decades, regarding the personal conduct of many of its priests and the resulting actions taken by Church leadership. It wasn’t “the children” they protected.

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    A Sunday prayer for 35 priests at the Archdiocese of Philadelphia: string them up…

    …or let those children who were abused and who are now adults have at them.

    Cardinal Anthony J. Bevilacqua ordered aides to shred a 1994 memo that identified 35 Archdiocese of Philadelphia priests suspected of sexually abusing children, according to a new court filing.

    The order, outlined in a handwritten note locked away for years at the archdiocese’s Center City offices, was disclosed Friday by lawyers for Msgr. William J. Lynn, the former church administrator facing trial next month.

    They say the shredding directive proves what Lynn has long claimed: that a church conspiracy to conceal clergy sex abuse was orchestrated at levels far above him.

    “It is beyond doubt that Msgr. Lynn was completely unaware of this act of obstruction,” attorneys Jeffrey Lindy and Thomas Bergstrom wrote.

    Their motion asks Common Pleas Court Judge M. Teresa Sarmina to dismiss the conspiracy and endangerment charges against Lynn, or to bar prosecutors from introducing Bevilacqua’s videotaped testimony at trial.

    The cardinal died Jan. 31.

    Read it all…

    And meanwhile the Catholic Church, with its current mouthpiece as Rick Santorum, want to tell all women in the country what they should and shouldn’t do with contraception and personal choices because of so called “religious freedom”? It’s truly laughable. We’ve seen what the Catholic Church’s male-leadership has done with religious freedom for decades, regarding the personal conduct of many of its priests and the resulting actions taken by Church leadership. It wasn’t “the children” they protected.

    — 2 years ago with 3 notes
    #news  #rage  #religion  #archdiocese of philadelphia  #Cardinal Anthony J. Bevilacqua  #Catholic Church  #Catholics  #child abuse  #court filing  #crime  #Msgr. William J. Lynn  #priests  #sexually abusing children  #shedded documents 
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Catholicism and American politics: then and now
50 years ago:

“But because I am a Catholic and no Catholic has ever been elected President, the real issues in this campaign have been obscured — perhaps deliberately, in some quarters less responsible than this. So it is apparently necessary for me to state once again — not what kind of church I believe in for that should be important only to me, but what kind of America I believe in. I believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute — where no Catholic prelate would tell the President (should he be a Catholic) how to act and no Protestant minister would tell his parishioners for whom to vote — where no church or church school is granted any public funds or political preference — and where no man is denied public office merely because his religion differs from the President who might appoint him or the people who might elect him.” — President John F. Kennedy, in a 1960 speech, assuring Southern Baptist leaders that as the nation’s first Catholic president, he would not take orders from the Pope. 

And today:

“I don’t believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute. The idea that the church can have no influence or no involvement in the operation of the state is absolutely antithetical to the objectives and vision of our country… To say people of faith have no role in the public square, you bet that makes you throw up. What kind of country do we live in that says only people of non-faith can come in the public square and make their case. That makes me throw up and it should make every American.” — Rick Santorum, today, on This Week with George Stephanopoulos. 

    Catholicism and American politics: then and now

    50 years ago:

    “But because I am a Catholic and no Catholic has ever been elected President, the real issues in this campaign have been obscured — perhaps deliberately, in some quarters less responsible than this. So it is apparently necessary for me to state once again — not what kind of church I believe in for that should be important only to me, but what kind of America I believe in. I believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute — where no Catholic prelate would tell the President (should he be a Catholic) how to act and no Protestant minister would tell his parishioners for whom to vote — where no church or church school is granted any public funds or political preference — and where no man is denied public office merely because his religion differs from the President who might appoint him or the people who might elect him.” — President John F. Kennedy, in a 1960 speech, assuring Southern Baptist leaders that as the nation’s first Catholic president, he would not take orders from the Pope. 

    And today:

    “I don’t believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute. The idea that the church can have no influence or no involvement in the operation of the state is absolutely antithetical to the objectives and vision of our country… To say people of faith have no role in the public square, you bet that makes you throw up. What kind of country do we live in that says only people of non-faith can come in the public square and make their case. That makes me throw up and it should make every American.” — Rick Santorum, today, on This Week with George Stephanopoulos. 

    — 2 years ago with 217 notes
    #news  #politics  #religion  #vote!  #horror  #1960  #catholicism  #Catholics  #president john f. kennedy  #rick santorum  #rome  #santorum wants to throw up  #separation of church and state  #the catholic church  #the pope  #the vatican 
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Catholics intensify campaign against same sex marriage - LONDON — The Roman Catholic Church stepped up its campaign against civil gay marriage, with a letter from two senior archbishops being read out at services in 2,500 churches on Sunday. The letter from Archbishop Vincent Nichols, the leader of the Catholic Church in England and Wales, and Archbishop Peter Smith, the Archbishop of Southwark, said it was their “duty” to defend the institution of marriage. “Changing the legal definition of marriage would be a profoundly radical step. Its consequences should be taken seriously now,” Nichols and Smith said in the letter, which was being read out at parish churches in England and Wales. “We have a duty to married people today, and to those who come after us, to do all we can to ensure that the true meaning of marriage is not lost for future generations.”

    Catholics intensify campaign against same sex marriage - LONDON — The Roman Catholic Church stepped up its campaign against civil gay marriage, with a letter from two senior archbishops being read out at services in 2,500 churches on Sunday. The letter from Archbishop Vincent Nichols, the leader of the Catholic Church in England and Wales, and Archbishop Peter Smith, the Archbishop of Southwark, said it was their “duty” to defend the institution of marriage. “Changing the legal definition of marriage would be a profoundly radical step. Its consequences should be taken seriously now,” Nichols and Smith said in the letter, which was being read out at parish churches in England and Wales. “We have a duty to married people today, and to those who come after us, to do all we can to ensure that the true meaning of marriage is not lost for future generations.”

    — 2 years ago with 6 notes
    #news  #politics  #religion  #gay marriage  #catholics  #catholic church  #civil marriage 
    CARDINAL DOLAN: MAN OF GOD — It seems that some people would rather not extend the statute of limitations for the crime of sexually abusing children. What kind of monster — no, wait… Cardinal Timothy Dolan has made defeating statute of limitations reform one of his top legislative priorities. This is the guy, remember, who made such a loud fuss about contraception that the president had to cut a compromise deal that caused Dolan and the rest of the clerical errors to make an even louder fuss. And who, most recently, opened his well-stuffed piehole on the subject of the president’s support for marriage equality: “We cannot be silent in the face of words or actions that would undermine the institution of marriage, the very cornerstone of our society. The people of this country, especially our children, deserve better.” — Charles P. Pierce

    CARDINAL DOLAN: MAN OF GOD — It seems that some people would rather not extend the statute of limitations for the crime of sexually abusing children. What kind of monster — no, wait… Cardinal Timothy Dolan has made defeating statute of limitations reform one of his top legislative priorities. This is the guy, remember, who made such a loud fuss about contraception that the president had to cut a compromise deal that caused Dolan and the rest of the clerical errors to make an even louder fuss. And who, most recently, opened his well-stuffed piehole on the subject of the president’s support for marriage equality: “We cannot be silent in the face of words or actions that would undermine the institution of marriage, the very cornerstone of our society. The people of this country, especially our children, deserve better.” — Charles P. Pierce

    — 1 year ago with 2 notes
    #news  #religion  #politics  #marriage equality  #timothy dolan  #cardinal dolan  #equal rights  #contraception  #protect pedophile priests  #catholics  #statute of limitations  #abusing children 
    Conservative radio host wants nuns “pistol whipped” for disagreeing with Ryan’s budget
Another conservative mouth-breather with a tiny penis and a Clear Channel radio program. The quote above was said on 6/22/12.
And how did the “distinguished” Republican from Iowa, Rep. Latham, respond? He laughed. 
Story here »Contact WHO radio here »Contact Rep. Latham here »
But both sides “do it”… right, media?

    Conservative radio host wants nuns “pistol whipped” for disagreeing with Ryan’s budget

    Another conservative mouth-breather with a tiny penis and a Clear Channel radio program. The quote above was said on 6/22/12.

    And how did the “distinguished” Republican from Iowa, Rep. Latham, respond? He laughed. 

    Story here »
    Contact WHO radio here »
    Contact Rep. Latham here »

    But both sides “do it”… right, media?

    — 1 year ago with 4 notes
    #FAIL  #media  #news  #politics  #vote!  #1. tax cuts for the wealthy  #2. austerity for the rest of us  #Catholics  #clear channel  #des moines  #GOP  #iowa  #jan mickelson  #mouth breather  #nuns  #Paul Ryan  #pistol whip  #pistol whip nuns  #radio host  #Republicans  #ryan budget  #ryan plan  #small penis  #tom latham  #war on women