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    "There’s not more than a handful of voters in America who are bigoted enough to hold a position on marriage equality against a candidate for President above all else, or at least not more than a handful who wouldn’t already be voting against Obama because they already think he endorses what he has strained not to endorse. […] Moreover, the only impression you get from this word-parsing and game-playing is one of a cynical campaign operation unable to articulate a strong statement of principle."

    —David Dayen at Firedoglake

    Gay-marriage supporters’ patience with Obama is wearing thin. Most observers on both sides of the issue think President Obama secretly supports gay marriage but won’t say so publicly for political reasons. Would Obama be better off if he just endorsed same-sex marriage?

    (via theweekmagazine)

    PUH-LEESE - you’re telling us that a firebagger's patience is 'wearing thin?' Firedoglake has been one of the biggest critics of anything Obama since he won the election. Jane must have an upcoming appearance on Fox News. 

    But Vote Romney — that will turn out so much better for a progressive.

    (via theweekmagazine)

    — 1 year ago with 9 notes
    #politics  #news  #President Obama  #homosexuality  #gay  #gay marriage  #Joe Biden  #Arne Duncan  #election 2012 
    image: memewhore
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Who said it: an Evangelical Christian or an Iranian Cleric?

CHRISTIAN EVANGELICALS AND IRANIAN CLERICS HAVE SO MUCH COMMON: 
Pat Robertson On Homosexuality: It’s Related To A Type Of “Demonic Possession” –  “The world today says ‘OK, so you are gay, you want to have affairs with men — that’s cool. You have an absolute right to do that, why not?’ That’s not the right attitude. The attitude is that this is sin. It’s wrong. And [this man] realized it was wrong but couldn’t control it. But that type of conduct is wrong… he is obsessed. He has a compulsion. I would think that it is somehow related to demonic possession…”
Tony Perkins, hate group leader: ‘Open homosexuality’ caused Secret Service scandal – Speaking to conservative radio host Janet Mefferd, Tony Perkins, head of the Family Research Council — a hate group, according the the Southern Poverty Law Center — connected the prostitution scandal to the repeal of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell. […] “The same is true for what the President has done to the military enforcing open homosexuality in our military,” he continued. “You can change the law but you can’t change the moral law that’s behind it.” “So what you have is you have a total breakdown and you can’t pick and choose. Morality is not a smorgasbord; you can’t pick what you want. I think you’re absolutely right, this is a fundamental issue going forward because if we say ‘let them do what we want,’ what’s next? You cannot maintain moral order if you are willing to allow a few things to slide.” At least 11 Secret Service agents were placed on leave over the weekend after they were accused of bringing prostitutes to their hotel room in Cartagena, Colombia.
Rick Santorum on homosexuality – In a 2003 interview with The Associated Press, Santorum argued that if the Supreme Court struck down sodomy laws and allowed people to perform homosexual acts in their own homes, thousands of years of civilization would go out the window. Marriage as an institution that exists only between a man and a woman must be upheld, he said. “In every society, the definition of marriage has not ever to my knowledge included homosexuality,” Santorum said. “That’s not to pick on homosexuality. It’s not, you know, man on child, man on dog, or whatever the case may be.”
Iranian cleric: LGBT are inferior to dogs and pigs – Ayatollah Abdollah Javadi-Amoli, an Islamic scholar based in Iran’s holy city of Qom, said in a speech among his followers that homosexuals are inferior to dogs and pigs, according to the news website Khabaronline. “If a society commits a new sin, it will face a new punishment,” he said while interpreting Qur’anic verses about prophet Lot whose tribe Isalmic scholars say was punished by God for sodomy. “Problems like Aids did not exist before.” Citing the Qur’an, Javadi-Amoli said politicians who pass laws in favour of homosexuals are lower than animals. “Even animals … dogs and pigs don’t engage in this disgusting act [homosexuality] but yet they [western politicians] pass laws in favour of them in their parliaments.” Homosexuality is punishable by death according to fatwas issued by almost all Iranian clerics. Until recently, Lavat (sodomy for men) was punishable by death for all individuals involved in consensual sexual intercourse.
God be with you!

    image: memewhore

    Who said it: an Evangelical Christian or an Iranian Cleric?

    CHRISTIAN EVANGELICALS AND IRANIAN CLERICS HAVE SO MUCH COMMON: 

    • Pat Robertson On Homosexuality: It’s Related To A Type Of “Demonic Possession” –  “The world today says ‘OK, so you are gay, you want to have affairs with men — that’s cool. You have an absolute right to do that, why not?’ That’s not the right attitude. The attitude is that this is sin. It’s wrong. And [this man] realized it was wrong but couldn’t control it. But that type of conduct is wrong… he is obsessed. He has a compulsion. I would think that it is somehow related to demonic possession…”
    • Tony Perkins, hate group leader: ‘Open homosexuality’ caused Secret Service scandal – Speaking to conservative radio host Janet Mefferd, Tony Perkins, head of the Family Research Council — a hate group, according the the Southern Poverty Law Center — connected the prostitution scandal to the repeal of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell. […] “The same is true for what the President has done to the military enforcing open homosexuality in our military,” he continued. “You can change the law but you can’t change the moral law that’s behind it.” “So what you have is you have a total breakdown and you can’t pick and choose. Morality is not a smorgasbord; you can’t pick what you want. I think you’re absolutely right, this is a fundamental issue going forward because if we say ‘let them do what we want,’ what’s next? You cannot maintain moral order if you are willing to allow a few things to slide.” At least 11 Secret Service agents were placed on leave over the weekend after they were accused of bringing prostitutes to their hotel room in Cartagena, Colombia.
    • Rick Santorum on homosexuality – In a 2003 interview with The Associated Press, Santorum argued that if the Supreme Court struck down sodomy laws and allowed people to perform homosexual acts in their own homes, thousands of years of civilization would go out the window. Marriage as an institution that exists only between a man and a woman must be upheld, he said. “In every society, the definition of marriage has not ever to my knowledge included homosexuality,” Santorum said. “That’s not to pick on homosexuality. It’s not, you know, man on child, man on dog, or whatever the case may be.”
    • Iranian cleric: LGBT are inferior to dogs and pigs – Ayatollah Abdollah Javadi-Amoli, an Islamic scholar based in Iran’s holy city of Qom, said in a speech among his followers that homosexuals are inferior to dogs and pigs, according to the news website Khabaronline. “If a society commits a new sin, it will face a new punishment,” he said while interpreting Qur’anic verses about prophet Lot whose tribe Isalmic scholars say was punished by God for sodomy. “Problems like Aids did not exist before.” Citing the Qur’an, Javadi-Amoli said politicians who pass laws in favour of homosexuals are lower than animals. “Even animals … dogs and pigs don’t engage in this disgusting act [homosexuality] but yet they [western politicians] pass laws in favour of them in their parliaments.” Homosexuality is punishable by death according to fatwas issued by almost all Iranian clerics. Until recently, Lavat (sodomy for men) was punishable by death for all individuals involved in consensual sexual intercourse.

    God be with you!

    — 1 year ago with 2 notes
    #politics  #religion  #news  #ayatollah abdollah javadi-amoli  #Christians  #coffee with jesus  #equal rights  #gay marriage  #gays  #GOP  #homosexuality  #iranian cleric  #Islam  #LGBT  #Muslims  #pat robertson  #republican jesus  #Republicans  #rick santorum  #tea party  #tony perkins 
    [re: quote in image: see this video] 
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Pat Robertson says homosexuality is a result of “demonic possession” — On “The 700 Club” this week, viewers were shown a segment about a man who tried to “change” his sexuality by marrying a woman, but nevertheless kept having gay affairs. TV preacher Pat Robertson said of the story, “I think it is somehow related to demonic possession.” He wasn’t kidding. It’s the 21st century; I just thought I’d mention that. WATCH VIDEO: 

    [re: quote in image: see this video]

    Pat Robertson says homosexuality is a result of “demonic possession” — On “The 700 Club” this week, viewers were shown a segment about a man who tried to “change” his sexuality by marrying a woman, but nevertheless kept having gay affairs. TV preacher Pat Robertson said of the story, “I think it is somehow related to demonic possession.” He wasn’t kidding. It’s the 21st century; I just thought I’d mention that. WATCH VIDEO: 

    — 2 years ago with 7 notes
    #news  #politics  #religion  #pat robertson  #700 club  #demonic possession  #homosexuality  #christian! 
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Dutch Roman Catholic Church Castrated Boys As ‘Treatment’ For Homosexuality - Shocking reports have surfaced that reveal at least ten teenage boys were castrated in the 1950s by the Dutch Roman Catholic Church as a “treatment” for homosexuality, the Telegraph reports. Dutch journalist Joep Dohmen, reporting for the NRC Handelsblad uncovered ten cases of the castrations, one of which was suffered by Henk Heithuis, who was castrated as a minor for reporting to police sexual abuse by a priest that he endured while in the boarding home. Although the priests were convicted of the abuses, Heithuis was still transported to a Catholic hospital, and underwent a surgical castration as a treatment for homosexuality and, according to the report, a punishment for tattling on the clergy.

    Dutch Roman Catholic Church Castrated Boys As ‘Treatment’ For Homosexuality - Shocking reports have surfaced that reveal at least ten teenage boys were castrated in the 1950s by the Dutch Roman Catholic Church as a “treatment” for homosexuality, the Telegraph reports. Dutch journalist Joep Dohmen, reporting for the NRC Handelsblad uncovered ten cases of the castrations, one of which was suffered by Henk Heithuis, who was castrated as a minor for reporting to police sexual abuse by a priest that he endured while in the boarding home. Although the priests were convicted of the abuses, Heithuis was still transported to a Catholic hospital, and underwent a surgical castration as a treatment for homosexuality and, according to the report, a punishment for tattling on the clergy.

    — 2 years ago with 3 notes
    #cure  #news  #religion  #catholic church  #homosexuality  #castration  #castrated boys  #homosexuality  #dutch roman catholic church  #1950s  #horrific 

    Santorum cannot decide if gay marriage / homosexuality is more like beastiality or polygamy

    Rawstory: In 2003, an Associated Press reporter asked Santorum if he thought homosexuals should not have sex. He responded by saying that sodomy, adultery and polygamy all undermined the traditional family.

    “In every society, the definition of marriage has not ever to my knowledge included homosexuality. That’s not to pick on homosexuality. It’s not, you know, man on child, man on dog, or whatever the case may be. It is one thing.

    Now he says he TOTALLY didn’t mean homosexuality is like bestiality!

    “Hold on a second, John. Read the quote. I said it’s not. It is not. I didn’t say it is. I said it’s not. You know, I don’t — I’m trying to understand what you’re trying to make the point. I said it’s not those things. I didn’t connect them. I specifically excluded them.”

    It depends on what the definition of “it” is, I suppose…

    Besides, nowadays Santorum likes to equate gay marriage to polygamy — see video.

    Rawstory: Santorum tried engaging in a Socratic dialogue on gay marriage, parrying the student’s responses with nonsensical theoretical tangents.

    “So if you’re not happy unless you’re married to five other people, is that OK?  Reason says that if you think it’s okay for two [individuals to marry], then you have to differentiate for me why it’s not okay for three.”

    Huh?

    Don’t you see? You can’t, just cannot, define marriage as “between two adults.” If marriage isn’t defined specifically as “between one man and one woman,” then you open up the door to ANYTHING GOOOOEEEES!! Sharia Law! The sun will explode! Men on dogs!

    (Source: youtube.com)

    — 2 years ago with 1 note
    #news  #politics  #religion  #what a maroon!  #definition of marriage  #doma  #gay marriage  #homosexuality  #rick santorum